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Post by Paragon-Yoshi Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:00 pm

Shantae-based Emoticons
Status: COMPLETE


Now where we have the Shantae-skin completed, our next goal is to create a number of Shantae-emoticons.
Featuring Shantae and her friends and foes in little gif-animations doing all sorts of expressions.
Pretty simple and easy to understand what the goal is, no?


Current examples and WIPs:
By "Nai255"
Emoticon-Project SFPEmotes2b

By ".Luke"
Emoticon-Project Shantae_Squee_1


If you want to contribute, then feel free to do so.
We're still open for anything.
And if anyone wants to animate something that we can use as emoticons, feel free to do so.
We're grateful for that. Wink


UPDATE:
Emoticons are all online and ready for use now!
Enjoy! Kitty Face


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Post by .Luke Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:31 pm

Well, I gotta admit the other topic was only created to discuss the forum skin, so starting up again on a fresh thread for the emoticons and smilies makes sense, especially now that it's a community effort. Kinda gave me the sense of closure I needed with the skin anyway. XD

Reference quote for anyone wanting to make their own emoticons.

.Luke wrote:Okay, as it turns out, my emoticon idea will work at a 64x64 resolution, it just has to be drawn at a that size, (i.e, no working resolution above that size.) and inked in with 0.03 sized lines with variable width disabled. As shown below :

Emoticon-Project Shantae_Squee2

Although I must correct myself that roughs can do done at any resolution, but once it's time to ink the path, shrink the whole canvas down to 64x64 and then ink your SVG with a 0.03 sized brush! That way you won't lose any important details, but certain tiny features like fingers will likely disappear, so I'd recommend simple gloved-shaped hands, for both simplicity's sake and you won't have to rage over losing lots of little details at that resolution.

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Nai255 wrote:Really glad you guys like the smilies : ) (no pun intended)
Here's the finalized sheet:
Emoticon-Project SFPEmotes2b

Some of these may actually look better animated: I could draw additional frames if need be,
but would have to have somebody else make them into transparent .gifs

These are looking pretty nice, Nai! We don't have to shade them if we animate most of these, (Since that would drive up the filesize by a lot.) so they look good as-is; nothing to change. =P I'll create different emoticon sections for each character so things will be more organized. (Encase some of you aren't on the same page, click at the "View more Emoticons" tab above the Smiley section, to see what I mean.) If you want me to I'll help with separating and animating a good chunk of these.

EDIT : Just noticed that there is actually shading on those sprites, so nvm that first comment. :#

Different characters could also have fewer or more emotions, depending on how well they'd fit the emotion. For instance, I'd love to create a Bolo version of this :lol!: smiley, because that'd be epic to me. XD
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Post by Nai255 Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:58 am

Yeah I decided to try for a balance between 8-bit and 16-bit after hearing the feedback regarding details versus file size. And I agree with the possibility of having fewer icons for some characters: Risky's not the type I picture getting sad... not easily, at least. I'm also for variety with a given expression between characters to help keep the numbers down. I can easily picture Bolo's version of 'lol' being more like an Awesome face, without giving everyone else an Awesome face for example.

After talking more about it with Luke and Yoshi, what I think I'll go ahead and do is whip up base emotes for Bolo, Sky, and Mimic to join Shantae, Risky, and Rotty. Meanwhile, we can think up various emotions and which of the six characters they fit best. Finally, if we've decided that we're going to animate these, perhaps we could split that duty between ourselves, unless Luke's ok with animating all of them.

What do you think?


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Post by Nai255 Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:35 pm

At any rate, here's the stock emotes for the others:
Emoticon-Project Sfp_em10

We can think up some emotes for the individual characters.
These are just ideas off the top of my head to kick things off:

Shantae: Happy, Winking, Flirty
Risky: Angry, Evil Laughter, Dumbfounded, Shocked
Rotty: Catface, Winking w/ tongue stuck out, Laughing, Sad
Bolo: Awesome Face, Lovestruck, Embarrassed
Sky: Sunglasses, Concentrating
Mimic: Exclamation, Inspiration, Optimism
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Post by Paragon-Yoshi Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:33 pm

Like I said in the chat yesterday, I am unsure about Rotty being the best candidate for sadness.

Other than that however, it seems all clear. Wink
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Post by BossFight Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:37 pm

I know it was mostly a joke, but Rotty IS the only character to show sadness aside from Shantae herself (the crying scene at the end of RR.)
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Post by Nai255 Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:04 pm

Here's the FINAL final sheet, eheh:
Emoticon-Project Shantae_emotes_by_nai255-d5lu1p0

Sounds like Luke's ready to animate the ones that fit best.
Thanks again in advance, definitely had fun with these : )
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Post by .Luke Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:18 pm

Emoticon-Project S_happy Emoticon-Project S_sad Emoticon-Project S_wink

I've already gotten Shantae's three emotions done, and moving onto the rest. ^^ What do you guys think? Anything to change? (Such as animation speed or minor tweaks to the shading, etc.)
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Post by Nai255 Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:31 pm

It's aliiive! ^ ^
Taking Yoshi's feedback into consideration about the possibility of making the emotes bigger, perhaps some of the more expressive ones could include punctuation marks or other such symbols like hearts coming from them, which could expand upon the emotes without actually having to expand them, eheh. Just a suggestion though, as it stands they look great! If keeping all the emotes the same 24x24 size would work better, I'm fine with that too
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Post by .Luke Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:06 pm

Ah well, figured I'd dump two more here. Will have more once all of Rotty's and Risky's are done. I'm thinking about pulling an all-nighter so this gets done and I can focus on the 64x64 emoticons later this weekend. XD

Emoticon-Project R_laughEmoticon-Project R_pout
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Post by .Luke Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:14 am

Double post because it's important!

I think I've finished animating them all. XD All but the Razz face is animate. Razz (That one was one of my ideas for a Bolo face. Don't you just want to slug that smug look off his face? =P) That's 20 smilies we've got in total right now. ^^ I went ahead and implemented them into the "Shantae Smilies" section because I'm just that sick of the generic ones being there. If anyone has suggestions for changes, let me know so I can patch it up. XD

Now let's SPAM ALL THE SMILIES!!!

Extra Smile Smile Sad Wink Surprised Shocked Cool Laughing >:O Razz Embarassed Pouting Twisted Evil Like, seriously! Playful Wink Neutral Awesome Face Exclamation Kitty Face Lovestruck

The only one I didn't create, sadly, was the Optimistic expression for Mimic, but I just wasn't sure how to do that with just his face. When I think of optimism I usually need at least hands. D: So if anyone has ideas for that face, I would appreciate that, because I'm stumped there. XD


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Post by Nai255 Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:55 pm

EXCELLENT! Eheh, these definitely make me smile. Awesome Face
Many thanks again for letting me collab with ya on this
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Post by .Luke Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:35 pm

You're welcome, we very much appreciate your contribution to the forums. ^^ All I did was animate them, and I never would have made nice-looking smilies to animate like this on my own, honestly, so you still get all the credit here, since it didn't take me long to bring these to life at all. =P

I won't call it a day on these smilies just yet, though, we still have to hear everyone else's thoughts too, and for some reason the super happy face is being overridden by the normal smiley face, hmm.
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Post by Paragon-Yoshi Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:17 pm

They look all awesome. Nice work. Extra Smile
Though, Sky seems to be a little shorthanded. ^^;


But the emoticons are all nice.
Do you have all emotions now? Or are there still some left?

EDIT the D and ) emotions use the same emoticon. oO
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Post by .Luke Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:10 pm

This is the smiley you're supposed to be seeing, Emoticon-Project S_veryhappy but for whatever reason it's being overridden by Smile . I've currently posted a thread about it on the forumotion support boards to see if I can get any help on this. I can't begin to figure out what went wrong. o__o

http://help.forumotion.com/t117383-a-certain-smiley-is-overriding-another#769348
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Post by .Luke Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:04 pm

Almost forgot to mention this earlier today, but thanks to Sanket's help on the Forumotion Support Forums, he was able to install the Extra Smile properly for us. ^^ However different his approach was from mine sure worked wonders, so I couldn't be more thankful for his help on this one.

Btw Nai, I've given you a very special rank for your contribution of smilies. Playful Wink We wouldn't have such cute, original emoticons if you hadn't stepped up to the plate, so think of it as a way of us openly acknowledging your investment in our community. =P

So guys, does this mean our smilies are officially wrapped up, or are there more emoticons we could add to the mix? And if anyone has ideas for my chibi-styled ones to come feel free to post them here, I'd love to hear it and animate it into something we'd all like to use. ^^
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Post by Nai255 Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:40 am

Aww, shucks... Embarassed
I tend to have more fun doing stuff like this when I can collaborate with others, and I gotta give ya equal thanks for animating everything. Thanks again for the opportunity!
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Post by .Luke Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:49 am

You're welcome, we can't thank you enough for putting your own time and vision into these boards, it means a lot to me and everyone else on the Staff. ^^ I like making sure proper credit is given at every opportunity.
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Post by Paragon-Yoshi Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:24 am

Congrats, Nai. Extra Smile

Also, I think we better wait for your 64x64 emotes, before we call it complete. Wink
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Post by .Luke Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:07 am

True that, but as far as our normal smilies go, those are done. As for the larger emoticons, I may hold off on producing them until the basics of Harvey's engine are written. I don't think I can juggle art requests, original writing, engine coding and animated emoticons all at once, so the emoticons have to wait for more important things. I feel a little overwhelmed at the moment. XD

Besides that, I need more great ideas to post in a list before I really get started on them anyway. I mean, I have some ideas, but not many really cute or funny ones. I want to produce emoticons that have us all laughing and doubling over with cuteness, so that's going to take time to come up with. =P
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